Botox & Ageing Disgracefully

In this episode, Cassie shares her personal experiences with Botox and filler treatments, detailing the reasons behind her choices, the procedures she underwent, and the results she observed. 

Cassie discusses the psychological and physical impacts of cosmetic enhancements, including her own reactions and the societal pressures that influence such decisions. 

The conversation touches on the potential long-term consequences and the cultural trends driving the popularity of these cosmetic procedures. The episode concludes with reflections on natural aging and the importance of self-acceptance. 

00:00 Introduction to Botox Experiences 

00:12 The Real Reason for Botox 

01:22 Consultation and Decision Making 

01:56 First Botox Experience 

04:18 Second Botox Experience 

05:07 Cost and Duration of Botox 

06:48 Negative Experiences and Side Effects 

07:47 Lip Fillers and Their Downsides 

09:23 The Trend of Cosmetic Procedures 

10:28 The Influence of Social Media 

14:22 Men's Perspectives on Cosmetic Procedures 

15:42 Final Thoughts and Personal Opinions 

16:31 Conclusion and Wrap-Up 

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Transcript

MIC1 0:38

Botox. All right. So I've actually had Botox twice. Because at the time I was having a little bit of a, you know, you're starting to age. Uh, actually, you know what? Do you know the real reason? And this is legit. I have a crease between my brows. And because I'm so OCD, it's crooked and it just was pissing me off. I'm like, it could least be really central.

MIC3 1:07

I think

MIC1 1:07

it's unique. No, it's

MIC3 1:08

noticed

MIC1 1:09

It's actually crooked and legit It, that was more the point the actual. Line was crooked. So I was like, how can I get rid of this?

MIC3 1:20

Does the Botox take the line away? Yeah. So

MIC1 1:23

yeah, so I went in and I don't like, I do believe in aging, you know, trying gracefully,

MIC3 1:31

Well, I don't think, you can't believe it happens. The alternative

MIC2 1:36

is death.

MIC1 1:39

you know what I mean?

MIC3 1:41

Anyway. It's not a

MIC2 1:42

it's not a conspiracy theory that we age,

MIC3 1:47

It might be

MIC1 1:49

Okay. Well,

MIC2 1:50

yeah.

MIC1 1:51

You know what I'm saying? Anyway, gracefully. Yeah. So I thought, yeah, no worries. And you know, I thought I'll go in, see what happens. And I spoke to a doctor and she's like, yeah, we can totally do that now. Do you want filler or Botox and

MIC3 2:08

what's

MIC2 2:08

the difference?

MIC1 2:09

That's it. I thought, I dunno, no idea. I don't know about this shit. Just make the line go away or not as deep. Or crooked or whatever. I said, what's the difference? She said, well, you know, a fillers like a different thing and that's, you know, more permanent, but sometimes you have to put more in. It's more cost, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, I'm just like, just, yeah, Botox. That's fine. She sort of explained it. Yeah. Make you sign forms. You know, there's, there's shit that can go wrong and

MIC2 2:42

because it's poison.

MIC1 2:45

I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever. They actually ask you questions about your mental health.

MIC2 2:51

Right?

MIC3 2:51

Why?

MIC2 2:52

What kind of questions? Like

MIC1 2:53

basically, are you of right mind,? Have you been experiencing sad times. They're actually sort of just checking off that your right mind, that you're not like, there's a few questions in there that are like, are you okay? Of course, you know what,

MIC3 3:10

like.

MIC1 3:11

I probably wasn't at the time.

MIC3 3:14

You lie and say you were of sound mind?

MIC1 3:19

I'm trying to say no.

MIC3 3:21

No. Did you? Because if you say, no, I'm not,

MIC1 3:24

Yeah, but No, that's right. No, yeah, of course you're gonna go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm totally

MIC2 3:30

but interesting. I wonder if you did say, actually no. I'm in the middle of a depressive episode right now. For

MIC1 3:36

example. Mm-hmm.

MIC2 3:38

I don't think they'd turn you away because they're still gonna take

MIC3 3:40

your money. They just

MIC2 3:41

need it on paper.

MIC1 3:42

Yeah. So anyway, yeah, I tick the boxes, get the Botox done. You don't see anything for a little while. You have all these red marks Pain doesn't, needles don't bother me. Now it's funny because I don't like pharmaceuticals and I'm not big on all that stuff, but. The vanity thing or the OCD thing of just make that go away. I'm happy. And she goes, oh, do you want some around the eyes and stuff? No, I don't.

MIC2 4:11

Oh, they're trying to

MIC3 4:12

add,

MIC1 4:12

that's fine. I, I'm happy with the crow's feet and whatever. I just don't want. Crooked line between my brows. It pissed me off every morning. I'm OCD, I don't want that there. And it looks harsh. Anyway, so they do all that and after about two weeks you start to see the effects and it didn't get rid of it completely, just Did

MIC2 4:34

you love it?

MIC1 4:34

it, to be honest, to begin with. I was a bit disappointed. I'm like, oh, I can still see it, like it's still there.

MIC2 4:42

What did you expect?

MIC1 4:43

Yeah, like smooth. Smooth. Now, I don't know whether filler would've done that or whatever, but also they talk about how much you want put in there and, well, I don't know. You are the expert. I wouldn't have a clue. And then after a little while I went to another clinic'cause I'd moved and I thought, oh, yep. I'll go back and get that done again. Now I saw a different bird and she was from Melbourne and she was in a high profile place, and she talked and discussed and looked at my forehead. Oh, you have, you've got a few lines on there. Maybe we can just fill that out a bit more and inadvertently I was just, yeah, all I really cared about was that crooked line. I didn't really care about the forhead, because it's not so bad. And next thing I'm sort of going, oh yeah, yeah, okay. Like she didn't coerce me, but you should of. She's sort of pointing out stuff and I'm like, all right, yeah, just fill that shit up. Let's see what happens. So she injects the crap out of it.

MIC3 5:45

So with the cost, can I ask Yeah. Every time they put an injection in, is that up? Like you say, I think

MIC2 5:52

ML or

MIC3 5:53

something like

MIC2 5:54

CC or

MIC1 5:54

So what they do is they do a consult and then they talk about what you want and how many ml and what outcome do you want, all that sort of stuff. And you see all those horror things of like people looking like cats, and I didn't want that. I just wanted one crooked line in the middle of my brows gone. So I went very gingerly and it's, it does cost, like, you know, at the

MIC3 6:19

can I ask how much it is?'cause I've got no idea.

MIC1 6:22

Okay. So at the time I was in the mines, so I had a bit of money of course, to spend on it. I think it was about 370. Just for, however, for just for that little crease in the

MIC3 6:34

how long is that supposed to last for? Hmm.

MIC1 6:38

good question. I've had it a few years ago now, so I'm, I think they said like three to four months

MIC3 6:44

Mm-hmm.

MIC1 6:45

So she said it depends on, also, they said, oh, sometimes some people's bodies dissolve it really quickly. So some people, it might last for three months. Some people might last for six months, but then they're sort of like, oh, you'll need to come back every. Three to four months mm-hmm. And get this done. So anyway, I didn't for ages and I went back Yep. Saw this other bird and she's telling me all about it. And, she sort of blew me with, oh, I've been in Melbourne in a high profile, cosmetic center and she's done all this and she knows exactly what she's doing. So next minute I'll get my forehead filled up. Costs a lot more by the way. And,. It was the worst experience. I felt like I had a hematoma,

MIC3 7:33

like

MIC1 7:34

massive. It felt it was a weird, so much pressure. I felt like my forehead was protruding. It sort of put pressure on my brows, so I constantly felt like my eyes were trying to shut Oh, that's horrible. It was for weeks.

MIC3 7:48

Is it painful when they actually put it in?

MIC1 7:50

Oh, it's an injection. Okay. But yeah, that, like I said, that doesn't really bother me. I'm really good with pain, but I had headaches. I just felt really. Stressed, like I was just like, this feels so weird. And when it'cause it takes a couple of weeks to kick in. I don't know if anyone noticed, but I just looked constantly in the mirror and felt like I had a weird forehead. Did

MIC3 8:13

we see you? Was that when you were living in Cairns?

MIC1 8:14

No, was up North

MIC3 8:15

So we never saw that? No. No.

MIC1 8:17

and I just felt like my forehead looked weird, but no one ever said anything. After that, never again. Yeah. And I did get a little bit of lip filler in my lip.

MIC2 8:29

You come to Adelaide that time and remember when I seen it straight away, I'm like, did you

MIC3 8:32

get lip filler?

MIC1 8:34

Yeah,

MIC3 8:35

You're like, um, um,

MIC1 8:36

yeah. Yeah. can't

MIC3 8:38

anything past Tina.

MIC1 8:39

but again, like I didn't, I went in there and I was so, I do not wanna look like those girls with the big luba lips. Like I, my motivation for that was. You get your deep lines in the top of your lip. And I just wanted them smoothed out a bit. And I've pretty thin lips, so I was like, oh, I'll just give out a little bit of a go, you know? And, I actually got filler, which you could feel it was like a worm around the outside of your lips

MIC3 9:06

Wow.

MIC1 9:07

feel it. And I, have since obviously learned a lot about it, would never do it again. Filler especially they say it breaks down so that they say, you are gonna, again, you have to come back. It breaks down after this so much. I can still feel it there, but it's broken up and that was. A few years ago now, and, they, do, they've done x-rays of people's faces with filler

MIC2 9:34

I've seen that.

MIC1 9:35

like unbelievable. The filler moves around their face doesn't dissolve properly. That's why you see those women sometimes in Hollywood where it's all gone wrong. They've had so much filler that are all coagulate sort of, and just pockets everywhere and just CLAGs up. Underneath their skin. It doesn't dissolve properly. It's a toxin.

MIC3 10:00

people need to know this. All these young girls that are going and doing this who are in their twenties, preventative,

MIC1 10:06

and that's how they sell it. Preventative what

MIC3 10:08

do you mean, preventative? So they,

MIC2 10:11

so that you don't get the wrinkles in the first place. They fill you with Botox and fillers, so you don't get, but think about this, right. In your face are all the muscles and they're trying to relax the muscles so that you don't get the

MIC3 10:24

wrinkles. Mm-hmm.

MIC2 10:25

Mm-hmm. But if you don't go to the gym, if you don't work a muscle, you don't. If you don't use it, you lose it.

MIC1 10:31

Mm-hmm.

MIC3 10:32

So

MIC2 10:33

You're not keeping that muscle toned. So when the Botox wears off, you're going to be twice as saggy.

MIC3 10:39

Mm-hmm. the more you do it

MIC2 10:41

are a life long client.

MIC3 10:42

Yeah. The more you do it, the more you have to do it.

MIC2 10:45

Yeah. And

MIC3 10:46

And it's poison and it's never gonna end. So if you are 20 in your twenties and you're starting to do this

MIC2 10:50

Oh my

MIC3 10:51

God. How do, how do they afford it? Anyone

MIC2 10:53

in their

MIC3 10:53

twenties mm-hmm.

MIC2 10:55

afford anything at this point? With the nails, the tan, the hair, the Botox, the filler, the. Like, what else

MIC3 11:04

is it? Yeah. I'm so glad we didn't have all that.

MIC1 11:06

But then do you know what blows my mind too is

MIC3 11:10

there's

MIC1 11:10

many girls, and you look at their lips and they're perfect. They're pouty beautiful lips, and then they think, oh, I need bigger lips, and their lips are literally, perfect. Then they go get it done. But what happens is they get it filled and then they're watching. All these images on, insta, this is my take, you know, watching all these images on Kardashians and, or sorry, Kardashians.

MIC3 11:39

We love the Kardashians.

MIC1 11:41

I actually do.

MIC2 11:43

do you,

MIC1 11:43

and I, yeah, Lauren and I, yeah, we talk, we

MIC3 11:46

I don't like anything they stand for or whatever, but I, I do watch it. But

MIC2 11:50

you enjoy the entertainment. closet

MIC3 11:52

Kardashians watcher.

MIC1 11:53

Anyway. They see all these images on Insta with bigger and bigger lips. Now, if you seriously look at it and go. That looks ridiculous. So what happens, I think, is they get a bit of, filler in their lips. Then they see someone else and then all their friends again, and they get bigger, bigger lips to, it's like you just like, oh my gosh. And you're like, but you look and you go, these girls are beautiful. They don't need, they don't these massive lu lips. And then I've noticed now there is a few people getting them dissolved and they are just. Could look gorgeous, but what it is, it's desensitizing. It's, they're seeing the images so much that it becomes normal to have big luber lips. But it's because they're pumping the images out. They make it not look weird. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? but that will

MIC3 12:44

go in

MIC2 12:44

stages and then. And this is the problem with going with trends, right? Because in five, 10 years time, the natural look will

MIC3 12:53

be. Mm-hmm.

MIC2 12:54

and then all of these people

MIC3 12:56

Who have been doing

MIC2 12:56

it for so long, they're not gonna be able to go back to

MIC3 12:59

natural.

MIC2 13:00

And then obviously

MIC3 13:01

it's a bit like eyebrows.'cause remember everybody wanted really skinny seen again, but then back to thin, and then we wanted fatter ones

MIC2 13:08

Oh my

MIC3 13:09

ones. Yes. Yeah.

MIC2 13:10

You just, if you just stay

MIC3 13:12

with what you've got, then

MIC2 13:13

you'll always be Yeah. On trend. Yeah.

MIC1 13:16

A lot of the older Hollywood stars now are actually getting everything dissolved and going back to natural and good on'em. Yeah. Yeah.

MIC3 13:26

And have you noticed I've, I do see a few people who have started getting Botox quite young, and sometimes quite often. Yeah, they were, they looked prettier before they got the Botox. A hundred percent. Yeah. And, but it's addictive. So then they get more and more and more, and they're getting less and less attractive,

MIC2 13:46

Yeah, there's a disorder there or something. There's

MIC1 13:49

It's actually sad because like you said, a lot of these people are beautiful. Mm-hmm. Like, and they,

MIC3 13:54

yeah. they look

MIC1 13:54

amazing before they even start

MIC2 13:56

the doctors and nurses that are doing it, they need to be held accountable.

MIC1 14:00

a multimillion dollar business.

MIC2 14:01

You know

MIC3 14:02

isn't everything.

MIC1 14:03

Yeah, but also, then you got dental clinics that are bringing it in and they all get in on it.'cause they're like, oh, we can get injectables here. Little side hustle in the dental clinic. And, it's just all about the money

MIC2 14:16

everywhere though. Like you just go down to the local shopping center here. Four places at least that have always got, aesthetic nurse on today, injectable nurse on today. Walk in. So many mls or ccs or

MIC3 14:32

can you sue if they bodge it?

MIC2 14:34

No,

MIC1 14:35

No.

MIC3 14:35

they can't

MIC1 14:36

sign waivers and Yeah, but look, again, each of their own, if that's what makes you happy, you wanna do that? You do. You, I just think it's sad that there's so many beautiful women out there sort of mutilating their face or just having that skewed perception of themselves.'cause they're gone bombarded by images, but that not the norm. But it becomes normal to have massive lips. And can I just say though, you asked most men my husband was really. Not happy. He, he's never stopped me. He has always been very much, you know, but he was not happy about me. He was legit like, you look beautiful now. Like I don't care that you've got, why do you need to do that? And most men don't. Don't like

MIC2 15:22

that.

MIC1 15:22

But

MIC2 15:23

Porn addiction, that's another topic.

MIC1 15:25

Oh yeah.

MIC2 15:31

Oh, are we going back to the

MIC3 15:32

side hustle?

MIC1 15:36

Why are you looking at me me

MIC2 15:42

Because

MIC3 15:42

your sexy voice. Oh

MIC2 15:44

my

MIC3 15:45

God. Oh,

MIC1 15:47

how weird. Because I actually cringe at my voicee.

MIC3 15:51

Really? I like,

MIC2 15:52

It's so

MIC3 15:53

it's so sexy. It's so sexy.

MIC1 15:54

So sexy.

MIC2 15:54

What? Yeah.

MIC1 15:55

yeah, yeah. Don't get

MIC3 15:57

Really? Yeah. You don't know That

MIC1 15:59

I sound like a, a bloke.

MIC3 16:00

What? What? No, no. You sound hot.

MIC1 16:04

annoying. No,

MIC3 16:05

No, that's

MIC2 16:06

my God. Someone comment how sexy Cassie's voice is and that she should open up her own side hustle.

MIC1 16:20

So my take on it, my take is probably stay away from it

MIC3 16:25

it's great you've had experience though, because there's no point the three of us sitting here saying Botox is bad, but with no experience.

MIC1 16:31

I'm all for people, doing what makes'em happy, if that's what you wanna do. I don't judge or anything, but this is just my experience and I've gone and done a bit of research. I've looked at women, I've looked at the whole concept of it. And yeah, I'm just gonna try and age disgracefully

MIC2 16:52

Disgracefully,

MIC1 16:53

gracefully.

MIC3 16:55

You are aging very gracefully. You look amazing.

MIC1 16:59

have a sexy voice. So you know. Well,

MIC2 17:00

Well,

MIC3 17:01

you also a sexy face

MIC1 17:01

so all they have to do is close their eyes and listen to me not look at my face. I thought we

MIC2 17:05

I thought we were keeping this pg.

MIC1 17:07

Oh no I'm not. Okay. That's a wrap.

MIC3 17:09

Oh,

MIC2 17:10

Good night.